GOLDIVANTI LP

Our company is registered in 2009, as Scottish Limited Partnership, and today the main business activity is investment into production and trade of gold and diamonds.

Our current prime activity is investment into Tanzanian and Ugandan gold mining business that are to bring gold and profits to our company.

We are the creator and first beneficiary of the program Start Your Own Gold Mine.

Prepaid Gold Forward Sales Contract

• Goldivanti® Prepaid Gold Forward Sales Contract
  The Goldivanti® Prepaid Gold Forward Sales Contract is a contract between two parties to deliver the gold in the future for prepaid payment and at a price agreed upon the time of the contract. The related Tanzanian mining company Start Your Own Gold Mine agrees to deliver gold bullion or raw gold at some time in the future in return for the agreement and payment from the other party. The mininig and production of such gold is thus being financed by the buyer of gold bars for the mutual win win situation.

About us

The manager started back doing gold related businesses back in 2002, when gold was purchased and sold on the world markets, with the vault and storage in London, UK and Zurich, Switzerland.

From there on, and the experience in gold business, we have engaged to trade in Europe and in Africa.

Recent exposure of GOLDIVANTI LP activities on Mineral Expo in Zagreb, Croatia, from 18th to 20th May 2018

Our company GOLDIVANTI LP was presented on the booth on Mineral Expo in Zagreb, Croatia, from 18th to 20th May 2018 by Mr. Mihael Vidas and Mr. Jean Louis.

We have been presenting our program Start Your Own Gold Mine and sales of gold from gold mining production in Tanzania and in Uganda.

One of features was the gold panning experiment that many visitors liked, especially children, as that was the first time they have seen gold particles. Many of visitors were surprised to find out that there is so much gold in their country Croatia. We will be having booths on Mineral Fairs all over the Europe.

More about GOLDIVANTI LP

Our company GOLDIVANTI LP was founded as separate business in 2009, and we moved quickly through the year 2010 by establishing network of suppliers and clients who were either selling us gold or other precious metals. Our business was paying profits to our partners in 2010 and 2011, and one part in 2012.

In 2012, and 2013, we have started developing mining sites in a small scale mining sector. Manager Mr. Jean Louis, together with partners, associates and local staff members in Tanzania, have inspected multiple mining sites, and determined that business is to be done there in Tanzania.

And that is what we are doing today, developing the mining site locations, engaging as integrator, as prospecting and small scale mining company into relations with local miners and license holders, so that our investments of past may bring profits in future.

Gold and gold bars for sale

Our company may facilitate the purchase of investment gold or gold bullion, gold bars and gold coins.

Gold Bullion and Gold Coin Sales

Our company provides discreet, private and straight forward, gold bullion and gold coin sales with flexibility require for international clients. We can sell any number or quantity of gold bars, gold bullion or gold coins up to 100 kilograms per day. However, we provide this purchase only for private single individuals and their companies.

Sales are facilitated from banks and mining companies.

Gold Mining

We are involved in our own gold mining activities currently in Tanzania, with momentum being used to move and expand the business into other countries such as Uganda, Ghana, Argentina, Laos, Camboda and some European areas. Private investors' inquiries are welcome.

Latest pages

• Employment and Managing Opportunities with GOLDIVANTI LP
  At all times of a year we offer various employment and management opportunities in our company GOLDIVANTI LP and Start Your Own Gold Mine. The first position offered just to everybody is Communication and Reporting Officer I/C which is the entry position to the JLCO Executive Secretary or other managerial position. Local and international people may be hired for management positions. And only local people are hired for technical and production related positions. Major skills required are motivation to develop in life, intelligence, communication skills, honesty, leadership skills, and willingness to work in fields of East Africa. Some people are hired to provide us with services in their own country.
• One kilogram, one 100 grams and three troy ounces of gold
  This is one kilogram of gold, plus 100 grams and three troy ounces of gold as three Vienner Philharmonic coins. It is very easy to purchase or sell gold in Austria. For consulting and help on how to buy gold and sell gold in Europe, feel free to contact us over [https://www.rcdwealth.com](https://www.rcdwealth.com "https://www.rcdwealth.com"). To Start Your Own Gold Mine in East Africa, feel free to visit [http://www.StartYourOwnGoldMine.com](http://www.StartYourOwnGoldMine.com "http://www.StartYourOwnGoldMine.com")…
• Mineral Expo in Zagreb, Croatia, from 18th to 20th May 2018
  Our company GOLDIVANTI LP was presented on the booth on Mineral Expo in Zagreb, Croatia, from 18th to 20th May 2018 by Mr. Mihael Vidas and Mr. Jean Louis. We have been presenting our program Start Your Own Gold Mine and sales of gold from gold mining production in Tanzania and in Uganda. One of features was the gold panning experiement that many visitors liked, especially children, as that was the first time they have seen gold particles. Many of visitors were surprised to find out that there is so much gold in their country Croatia. We will be having booths on Mineral Fairs all over the Europe.
• Greetings from Philippines by children of Mr. Sandy Orencia
  Alright! Thank you Philippines! Goldivanti Gold in Uganda has got support from Philippines! Thank you Sandy! Thank you children of father Sandy. We are working hard in Uganda and in Tanzania. Goldivanti Gold staff members in Uganda are pleased to see this video and greeting.
• Go Goldivanti Gold! -- Greetings from Sandy Orencia from Philippines
  Go Goldivanti Gold! Greetings from Sandy Orencia and his beautiful children from Philippines to Goldivanti Gold in Uganda and Tanzania. Thank you Sandy, thank you much!…
• Gold concentrate in our storage room
  This is the gold concentrate we are collecting in the storage room in Uganda.
• Meanwhile in Uganda, gold concentrate being collected
  This is the gold concentrate being collected in Uganda.
• Small gold particles on finger
  These are small gold particles on the finger, magnified.
• Gold particles visibly captured in the sluice
  These are small gold particles as captured on our sluices in Uganda.
• Gold particle captured on sluice
  Here is one more gold particle as captured on our sluice.
• Gold particles captured on the sluice
  Here are small gold particles magnified as captured on our gold recovery sluice in Uganda. We are collecting the surface gold nuggets and small particles with tweezers, while the concentrate is fully processed at once to collect all the gold.
• Spare parts for the water pump
  Here are the spare parts used for the water pump reparation.
• Reparation of the water pump
  This is how water pump is repaired. Low quality Chinese water pumps are easily obtained in Uganda, yet ask for higher maintenance expenses.
• Reparation of Chinese water pump
  We need to repair the Chinese manufactured water pump. Low quality water pumps have high maintenance expenses.
• Broken water pump
  This is what happens when Chinese manufactured water pump is used for few months. It breaks. Avoid Chinese pumps, if you can. We cannot and we have to use them.
• Gold particles on paper
  These are small gold particles on paper that is the proof that gold recovery from tailing works.
• Buckets full of gold concentrate
  These buckets are full of the gold concentrate as collected from January and February 2018 in Uganda by our company GOLDIVANTI GOLD LIMITED.
• Mr. Okedi and Mr. Wabwire collecting the gold concentrate in Uganda
  These are our staff members Mr. Okedi and Mr. Wabwire, collecting the gold concentrate into buckets. Every single day they work in Uganda for our company GOLDIVANTI GOLD LIMITED.
• Testing of the engine of drilling rig
  The drilling rig is tested two times before the purchase, first time for the functionality of the engine and second time by conducting one successful drill and getting one borehole.
• The drilling rig for water wells and gold prospecting
  This is the drilling rig for water well drilling and gold prospecting. There are ways how to implement this type of a drilling rig to detect the gold particles and eventual nuggets in the 1-2 cubic meters of soil that are excavated.
• Mr. Jean Louis in front of a water well drilling rig
  The water well drilling rig is life saving in Tanzania and in Uganda. It may be also used as for preliminary deep soil gold prospecting including as part of the second section of our Matrix Gold Prospecting.
• Our gold mining equipment
  This category of the GOLDIVANTI LP website is showing what gold mining equipment we are using in the program Start Your Own Gold Mine and on our mining sites both in Tanzania and in Uganda. We are direct investment company that opens up new small scale mining sites, and in partnerships with local license holders we handle and process the gold bearing ores for profit.
• Storage with the gold concentrate
  This is the storage with the gold concentrate. That is the subproduct of gold mining. First all concentrates may be stored in such buckets until the point of time when all concentrate is concentrated again and again until we get pure gold out. This production is conducted by our company GOLDIVANTI GOLD LIMITED in Uganda.
• Backhoe loader in Croatia for 7000 euro
  This backhoe loader in Croatia for about 7000 euro. The weight of the machine and condition does not allow us to make decisions for purchase. Once machine has been finished, we may review the offer. It is very usable in mining in Uganda and Tanzania.
• The spirit bottle with golden flakes
  This is edible gold in the bottle with spirit. This type of bottles is traditionally used in the Balkan area.
• Golden spirit
  This is spirit, alcoholic beverage with golden pieces.
• Cabin in the dredge boat
  Controls are located in the cabin of the dredge boat.
• The pump in the dredge boat
  This is slurry or gravel pump in the dredge boat and it can pump 100 tonnes per hour.
• The engine in the dredge boat
  This is the engine of the dredge boat and it is in good condition.
• Dredge boat and Stipe showing us the engine and pump
  This is Stipe, he is showing us the engine and the pump on his dredge boat.
• Winch on the dredge boat
  This is winch on the dredge boat.
• Dredging boat
  This boat is a dredge for gravel and sand that is dug out of the river in Croatia. It could be well used for digging and excavation of gold bearing sand and gravel in other countries.
• Crane shovel
  This is shovel that is used with the crane and that one is throwing in a swinging motion to fetch the sand, gravel or soil.
• Jean Louis in front of the crane
  This is me in front of the crane. This crane is being sold for about 20,000 euro, and decision is not easy as transport and import of the crane may considerably raise the full price of the purchase.
• Crane for digging and excavation
  This is universal crane that may be used for digging and excavation of soil, sand and gravel. It may replace excavator in various situations. We are visiting and considering how to obtain new equipment. Decisions on purchase of equipment from Europe with transportation to Tanzania or Uganda are difficult. Sometimes expenses of transport and import may be larger than the equipment price itself.
• Mr. Okedi collecting concentrates from looped carpets
  Looped carpets or miners' moss or 3M Nomad type of a carpets are used to efficiently recover gold larger than 50 mesh, gold nuggets, flakes and larger gold. On the end of the day and multiple times of day, concentrates are collected from such carpets.
• Mr. Louis doing practical field assay of gold
  Mr. Louis is doing here practical field assay of gold content in some soil. Similar method may be used to concentrate gold from the operation and to determine how much was recovered.
• Magnified flat gold nugget in the gold pan
  This is magnified and flat gold nugget in the pan. It is probably flat due to the previous ball mill processing, it was smashed and became flat.
• Small nuggets recovered
  Small flat nuggets are also found in concentrates and recovered by using super-concentration and simple gold panning methods.
• Mercury gold and mercury ball in the gold pan
  This is how it looks like when many gold particles are connected or amalgamated together with mercury. Miners used mercury in recovery of gold, and lost it in heaps of tailings. We are recovering both the mercury and the gold from such tailings, without using new mercury or introducing new mercury in the process.
• The mercury gold once again
  This is mercury gold once again shown in the gold pan after fine gold concentration process. We do not use mercury, we recover it as side effect.
• Mercury recovered from concentrates
  Instead of nice yellow gold, our gold looks as silver like, as it is mixed with mercury. Heaps of tailings are polluted with mercury and our recovery is such that we cannot see it yellow any more unless it is either microscopic, as such could not be connected to mercury or too large as nugget, as such also did not connect to mercury.
• The fine gold recovery system
  This is fine gold recovery system that helps us concentrate all the gold smaller than 50 mesh.
• Gold is recovered in form of mercury
  Heaps of tailings are polluted by mercury from previous mining operation. We are recovering mercury as well with the gold, and later dispose safely with the pollutant. Mercury is not used in our operation. We recover mercury from nature.
• Fine gold recovery system
  This is fine gold recovery systems, we are using the genious methods invented by smart microscopist from Oregon for purposes of mercury free gold recovery.
• Concentrate is being processed
  Mr. Louis is processing the remaining concentrates and process is fast. It is possible to process multiple buckets of concentrates after work, and to get to the fine gold within 15 minutes.
• The gold recovery system
  This is view from my working place on the gold recovery system for all gold smaller than 50 mesh, down to 5 microns. This fine gold can be recovered, totally without using mercury and by using simplest set theory in mathematics applied practically. Many people make a question how a set theory may be applied practically, and that is exactly how our gold recovery system works, by using the set theory and by removing those parts of material not containing or containing gold.
• Buckets of concentrate are today processed for gold
  The buckets of concentrate are today processed for gold. In general, our bulk of concentrate is not large. These many buckets contain various particle sizes and types of gold, and help in sorting out what we were doing. We can then determine which heap of tailing was better productive.
• Children panning for gold on mining site
  These children are panning for gold on mining site in a dangerous and polluted environment. Each heap of tailings is polluted with mercury. Children are in constant contact with mercury while playing and working on the mining site. We do not endorse such activities. This is report from neighboring sites where we do not have control.
• Heaps of tailings being milled again and processed
  These heaps of tailings are being milled again with the rudimentary locally made hammer crusher that runs in wet mode. The material is then processed on small looped carpet sluices. The hammer crusher is spending about 25,000 Ugs. per day on hammers alone, which is about US $6.95.
• Concentrate collection
  On the end of the day, concentrate is collected and retained for further concentration and final gold recovery.
• Miners working on the sluice
  Miners are handling the first tailings heaps on this mining site.
• Women and people panning for gold nearby our tailings heaps
  These women and men are panning for gold just nearby our tailings heaps. They may obtain per day of panning from 0.1 to 0.3 grams of gold, or sometimes more. It helps them live the life.
• Mining and mineral processing site
  This is our mining and mineral processing site where we have agreement to process all the tailings heaps.
• Miners feeding the sluice
  Sluice is fed by miners by the rate of 132 shovels per hour where average shovel is about 8 kilograms, amounting to little bit more than one tonne per hour. In the first stage, slow water pressure and low slope is applied to review how much of gold is retained and what gold is eventually being lost. Once capability have been attained, the slope is increasing up to the tolerated degree, and water pressure is increased. Up to 6-8 tonnes per hour may then be handled in the second stage.
• Concentrate on the vortex matting
  This is vortex matting, enlarged. Concentrate is under the surface of these particles, including several small gold nuggets.
• Mr. Louis by the sluice
  This is Mr. Louis, preparing small details for the fine gold recovery sluice. Gold particles are so small that cannot be seen by naked eyes.
• Water pump is debugged
  The water pump could not pull the water on 2-3 meters. We found out that pressure was disturbed too weak connection of the suction hose. Within few minutes it was repaired and water pump engaged.
• Our purchasing manager on the site
  This is our purchasing manager in Uganda, she handles a lot of accounting, facilitates with suppliers, makes sure that things are running smoothly.
• Quick and improvized sluice ready for work
  This is quick and improvized sluice ready for work and handling of the tailings heaps.
• Preparing the elevation for sluices
  Mr. Okedi is preparing the elevation for the sluice hopper.
• Old welding clamps used for carpentry
  This type of welding clamps may be used for carpentry and are generally useful to clamp the prospecting equipment, such as sluices together.
• Using welding clamps for carpentry
  These welding clamps may be used for simple carpentry as one can see it.
• Preparation of the HDPE pipes
  The HDPE (High Density Polyethylene) pipe is prepared on the mining site for the sluice run.
• Gold particles on the rock
  This magnification of 10x shows gold particles of 3-4 millimeter on the rock that also contains some iron or black sand.
• Repairing the wooden goat
  Those wooden goats were made of low quality timber. Not made to last, but to be light and to endure the improvization stage. We had to repair this one.
• The old abandoned rudimentary ball mill drum
  This is old and abandoned rudimentary ball mill drum on the mining site. One may see how it was repaired multiple times. We suspect gold inside, left for those who know where to search for it.
• Mineral sample on the mining site
  This is gold bearing rock that is crushed, milled and processed on this mining site.
• Mr. Louis nearby the tailings heap
  This is the tailings heap in background, and Mr. Louis is watching what? Birds? We don't know.
• The mercury coated or amalgamated gold in the gold pan
  This is the enlargement of the mercury coated or amalgamated gold in the gold pan.
• Mercury gold and small gold particles recovered
  Mercury gold is seen in the gold pan and represents the result from one portion of the concentrates that were collected on the sluice. Mercury collects small particles of gold together, and we recovery mercury and dispose of it. We do not use mercury in recovery of the gold. We recover both gold and mercury accidentally due to previous mercury pollution.
• Sluice handling
  People are handling the sluice for fine gold recovery. We are using 4 important pieces of technology necessary to capture small gold. The test stage allows a lot of mistakes to happen, so that next sluice may be built with all the small improvements necessary for better gold recovery.
• Feeding the sluice
  The sluice is fed during the first half an hour of testing. Clay material was much harder to handle, while all the sand was handled pretty well, mercury and gold particles could be recovered, together with the oxide coated gold particles.
• Laminar water flow
  Laminar water flow on the sluice is important factor in gold recovery. Turbulences and bubbles or air spaces under the water flow shall by all means be avoided.
• Gold particles are separated on the sluice
  Sluice and the slick plates on the first part of the sluice are being separated from each other and gold particles are running to be captured. Water flow is carefully observed, the level of the sluice, bubbles and turbulences.
• So many hoses, pipe, which one is ours?
  There are so many hoses and pipes on the ground, many of them are neglected. Miners do their best. Due to expenses, light blue hoses are used to bring water. But they are also breaking all the time and are more liability than an asset. We are using the HDPE pipe of two inch as it is durable and gives least resistant to water in comparison to those other soft hoses.
• The HDPE pipe is being moved for easier water supply
  The HDPE pipe is moved by our people for easier water supply. That way we did not need to cut the expensive suction hose which we use to bring water from the HDPE pipe. HDPE means high density polyethylene. Polyethylene is a lightweight thermoplastic used in insulation, plumbing and similar applications.
• The sluice ready for the tailings heap test
  The sluice is setup on the mining site on 1st January 2018 and is ready for the tailings test. Larger gold particles were found and much of the smaller particles of black, brown and dark red gold. Maybe you wonder what is black, brown and dark red gold? Those gold particles are coated with other minerals and do not appear as yellow and shiny as larger gold particles.
• Laurence at Upendo orphanage, delivery of clothes and shoes
  Our executive associate Laurence is delivering clothes and shoes to Upendo orphanage. We could not find all the children that were there present back in 2016. So we are still to understand what happened to them. One part of clothes and shoes was delivered to children in need. Those were sent by Erwin, our partner from Germany.
• Laurence giving presents to children
  Laurence visited children in Mwanza and is giving presents to them, the toys that our partner Erwing have sent from Germany. Clothes, shoes and toys were sent for orphans and we are distributing it before the new year 2018.
• Wema, the orphan, is taken care of by good friends in Mwanza
  This is Wema, she was 2 years old back in 2012, when we started visiting the Upendo orphanage. She is now with foster parents in Mwanza, Mary, and good friends who take raise her and take care of her.
• Purger waits for the burger
  This is Mr. Robert Stažnik, our Executive Associate in 2012. for business development in Tanzania. Purger means "Burger", it is German word for citizen, and he is purger of Zagreb, Croatia, of the inner town of Zagreb, the old part. It also means he is of exceptional character, trustful, loyal, honest, and ethical. I have not met a better man. He has handled all the tasks he had in Tanzania back in 2012, and we just hope to get him back into the business. Eat that Hamburger, purger!…
• The red face of Purger of Zagreb, Croatia, Mr. Robert Stažnik
  That is what happenes when purger from Zagreb comes to Tanzania. Red face. Purger means "Burger" in German language or "citizen", which has the meaning of a citizen of Zagreb, especially those citizens of the old town of Zagreb or near to the old town. Robert is exceptional, loyal, trustful and have helped us a lot. We reserve the right to mock him on these pages.
• Robert Stažnik in Mwanza in November 2012
  This is our Executive Associate in 2012, Mr. Robert Stažnik in Mwanza, Tanzania, with friends. Holding hands is quite common, it is habit in Africa, and when man is leading a man, or wants to show him anything, they hold hands. It does not mean they are kaka-moto or warm brothers, they are just guiding each other on the street.
• Robert Stažnik in Mwanza, Tanzania
  Robert Stažnik, the executive associate of GOLDIVANTI LP in 2012, 2013 and 2014. Here he is smiling at the restaurant in Mwanza, Tanzania not far from Bismarck Rocks.
• Mihael Vidas and Russian friends
  This is our introducer and associate Mr. Mihael Vidas and Russian friends in a hotel in Mwanza, Tanzania, back in 2012.
• Miners asking for cigarettes
  These miners were happy to see some foreigner passing by in their mining area. They asked for cigarettes or alcohol, which we did not have.
• The tailing heaps in September 2012
  These tailing heaps were producing 200-300 grams back in 2012. They could be purchased for affordable price and processed quickly for money.
• The "Aha" moment or Eureka moment in Tanzania, September 14th 2012
  This was the major Eureka moment or Aha! Moment for me in Tanzania, back on September 14th 2012. I could realize that each of the bags carried on the bicycles as seen on pictures contains one gram of gold which summarizes up to 20 grams of gold per tonne. The material was soft soil, that is easy to excavate with shovels or even hands. Many people, including women, grandfathers and grandmothers, and children were filling their rice bags with soil, and bringing them to the mineral processing place.
• The gold cyanidation plant in Tanzania
  This is the gold cyanidation plant in Tanzania. About 5 kilograms of gold have been produced here every month. The plant had 4 partners. Just about 30 days thereafter, we were informed that only 3 partners left due to the fatal car accident.
• Mineral processing plant in Tanzania on 14th September 2012
  This view is one of the "Aha" moments that happened in my life. That is where we realized how gold may be mined, obtained, processed, recovered for profits. Even though we already had some of contracts for mining ventures in sight, this was the first practical cognition. I have realized that people are leaching gold with cyanide, and purchasing heaps of gold bearing tailings. At that time I was myself in conflict with the chemicals, such as mercury or cyanide. After long research I have decided to…
• The view in our office in Mwanza, 2012
  This was our first office in Mwanza, Tanzania, back in 2012.
• Mpesa, the polisher in Mwanza, Tanzania
  This is Mpesa, polisher in Mwanza, Tanzania. We used his services back then to polish our first diamonds.
• Robert Stažnik in our office in Mwanza, Tanzania
  This is Robert Stažnik, in Mwanza, Tanzania, in our office. He greatly helped in establishment of our business in 2012, and have got new people into the office, and maintained all the necessary administration until the end of 2012.
• Our office in September 2013 in Mwanza, Tanzania
  This was our first office in Mwanza, Tanzania in September 2013. That is where we bought first gold from miners and polished first diamonds.
• Poor conditions of Upendo Orphanage in Mwanza, Tanzania, back in 2012
  The conditions and environment for these children is not as good, that we tried to remedy since 2012. The orphanage is not registered and the only caretaker is Mama Vedastina Manyasi which need our support since then.
• The poor house of the orphanage in Mwanza, Tanzania
  The house is poor, and dirty. About 12 children with the caretaker Vedastina, sleep all together there. First they were not using any mattresses, until we brought it to them. Then some of mattresses were sold in the meantime. Things happen.
• The Upendo Orphanage in Mwanza, Tanzania on 11th September 2012
  This is the Upendo Orphange in Mwanza, Tanzania, back in September 2012. The orphanage is not registered, and held by Mama Vedastina Manyasi, which we support from the first day we know them. They had at the time about 12 children, and even today, there is about 10 children in the orphanage. Some of them grow, some of them still stay with the caretaker.
• Goldivanti LP purchasing manager in Uganda in front of the storage room
  This is our Ugandan purchasing manager, she purchases all connectors, HDPE pipes, hoses, water pumps, pump connectors, and just whatever else is necessary. She managed to send a person to Tanzania and export and import the most necessary equipment.
• One part of our equipment in the storage room
  This is one part of our equipment in the storage room. Few suction hoses, a water pump, basins, gold pans, vortex matting and the miners' moss, fine gold sluices, buckets for concentrates and various basic tools.

Call Communication and Reporting Officer I/C in Tanzania, Mrs. Winfrida Madirisha, with company Start Your Own Gold Mine on +255626100000

If you wish to call mentor Mr. Jean Louis for anything relating to Start Your Own Gold Mine simply call the number or on mobile devices click on this phone number +385958185403 to get immediately in touch, regardless of the time zone.

Current location of Mentor to Start Your Own Gold Mine

I am Mr. Jean Louis, mentor for Start Your Own Gold Mine program and I am currently located in Novska, Croatia, Europe. You will need either to contact me by email or contact the Communication and Reporting Officer I/C as described.

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